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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The Matsumoku made guitars have always bring fascination to my collector ego. Their craftmanship and quality really do not deserve the low price market they are currently going for, or at least to this day. Anyway, this is quite good from an aficionado point of view. How do you recognise a matsumoko ? Certainly not ... <a title="Jacques Matsumoku collection" class="read-more" href="https://jacquespedals.com/jacques-matsumoku-collection/" aria-label="En savoir plus sur Jacques Matsumoku collection">Lire la suite</a></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignnone wp-image-3308" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsumoko-1024x678.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="397" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsumoko-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsumoko-300x199.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsumoko-768x509.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsumoko-370x245.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsumoko-600x397.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsumoko.jpg 1232w" sizes="(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px" /></p>
<p>The Matsumoku made guitars have always bring fascination to my collector ego. Their craftmanship and quality really do not deserve the low price market they are currently going for, or at least to this day. Anyway, this is quite good from an aficionado point of view.<br />
How do you recognise a matsumoko ? Certainly not with brand name, as they seemed to work for all Japanese makers in their glory time. Easiest start is the incredible wood work on them, and often complicated-to-death electronics, while this a not a rule, as we will see.<br />
I will not enter here in precise description of all models, description you can easily find on the web. Consider this page an ode to my beloved &lsquo;woodies&rsquo;.</p>
<p><strong>Ibanez</strong></p>
<p><img decoding="async" class="alignnone wp-image-3309" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanez-678x1024.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="906" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanez-678x1024.jpg 678w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanez-199x300.jpg 199w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanez-768x1160.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanez-370x559.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanez-600x906.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanez.jpg 816w" sizes="(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px" /></p>
<p>Mr.Famous first here with the Musician , an incredible guitar I have always loved for its ultra flat and thin neck, and mega-humbuckers, here in a light natural color and simple wiring. Then, my rare top-of-the-line studio in its elegant veneer. Please note the massive Cimar electric in the back, Cimar being an budget-brand of Ibanez for years.</p>
<p><img decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3310" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanezbass-678x1024.jpg" alt="" width="678" height="1024" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanezbass-678x1024.jpg 678w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanezbass-199x300.jpg 199w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanezbass-768x1160.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanezbass-370x559.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanezbass-600x906.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsibanezbass.jpg 816w" sizes="(max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px" /></p>
<p>Slap that bass, as Fred Astaire would say. Two musician and two studio, one being offensively modified. The musician bass was made famous by young Sting, who had nearly every model of this line, including a very rare 8-strings. These bass are excellent but heavy. Better work your back muscle with long rehearsals.</p>
<p><strong>Aria Pro II</strong></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3311" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria-678x1024.jpg" alt="" width="678" height="1024" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria-678x1024.jpg 678w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria-199x300.jpg 199w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria-768x1160.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria-370x559.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria-600x906.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria.jpg 816w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px" /></p>
<p>Aria was certainly one of the best customer of the mats factory. They came with a lot of models, all of excellent quality, such as my fave red with its casted bridge, really an incredible wood work. You can also spot an Urchin, weird shape at its best. Let&rsquo;s have a look at their booties :</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3312" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-678x1024.jpg" alt="" width="678" height="1024" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-678x1024.jpg 678w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-199x300.jpg 199w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-768x1160.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-370x559.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-600x906.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2.jpg 816w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px" /></p>
<p>A very proof that matsumoko mastered all type of necks : bolt-on, glued-on and neck-through live together in perfect harmony, while their neck-through really are exquisite and personnal fave. Cavities are as numerous as in a candy-lover-non-flosser-teen-ager, but always fitted with precise plates within micron precision.</p>
<p><strong>Vantage</strong></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3313" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsvantage-678x1024.jpg" alt="" width="678" height="1024" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsvantage-678x1024.jpg 678w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsvantage-199x300.jpg 199w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsvantage-768x1160.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsvantage-370x559.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsvantage-600x906.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsvantage.jpg 816w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px" /></p>
<p>Vantage was a very good customer too, but with less fantasy : most of their models, while always at the same level of high quality, look the same.<br />
The dark beauty on the right side was not made in Japan by mats, but in Korea by some crafty admirer of the famous luthier. You can see the woodstripes are not organise as usual at Matsumoko and the dark wood is from a different lumbers. Turn back !</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3314" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-1-678x1024.jpg" alt="" width="678" height="1024" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-1-678x1024.jpg 678w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-1-199x300.jpg 199w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-1-768x1160.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-1-370x559.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-1-600x906.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsaria2-1.jpg 816w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px" /></p>
<p>Same display of neck work here and clearly different gluing for the Korean&#8230;but I love her the same.</p>
<p><strong>The other brands</strong></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3315" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorris-678x1024.jpg" alt="" width="678" height="1024" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorris-678x1024.jpg 678w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorris-199x300.jpg 199w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorris-768x1160.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorris-370x559.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorris-600x906.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorris.jpg 816w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px" /></p>
<p>Their always should be a french man in every story&#8230;.and I found one in the matsumoko history with these Morris guitars. The back of these weird Globalsound Morris&#8212;brand mostly know for their cheap ripoff guitars in the &rsquo;70s&#8212;says : &lsquo; Designed by Patrick Vrolant&rsquo;&#8230;</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3316" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorrisback-678x1024.jpg" alt="" width="678" height="1024" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorrisback-678x1024.jpg 678w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorrisback-199x300.jpg 199w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorrisback-768x1160.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorrisback-370x559.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorrisback-600x906.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matsmorrisback.jpg 816w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px" /></p>
<p>This french designer even had time to propose bolt-on and neck-through before vanishing in Sologne fog on a winter morning hunting party&#8230;<br />
The other guitar bearing the C.G.Winner brand is quite a mats classics if you except its blade humbuckers from hell.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3317" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn-678x1024.jpg" alt="" width="678" height="1024" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn-678x1024.jpg 678w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn-199x300.jpg 199w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn-768x1160.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn-370x559.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn-600x906.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn.jpg 816w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px" /></p>
<p>Supermodels time now : The Washburn really is a luxury guitar with a mad array of special features, including metal circle neck markers. Do not snob the Eagle which is by far the best sounding mats of my collection. Light as a feather and ringing like a vintage sg special , this guitar could convert you to matsumoko before you could spell their name correctly.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3318" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn2-678x1024.jpg" alt="" width="678" height="1024" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn2-678x1024.jpg 678w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn2-199x300.jpg 199w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn2-768x1160.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn2-370x559.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn2-600x906.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswashburn2.jpg 816w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px" /></p>
<p>Really those guys had no family life : matching veneer backplate that comes so precisely in the cavity<br />
you could not put a piece of cigarette paper in the slit.</p>
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<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3319" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone-678x1024.jpg" alt="" width="678" height="1024" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone-678x1024.jpg 678w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone-199x300.jpg 199w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone-768x1160.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone-370x559.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone-600x906.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone.jpg 816w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px" /></p>
<p>These poor siblings have hidden talents. Both the Westone&#8212;propietary matsumoko brand&#8211;and the Kawai Aquarius AQ-555 fro 1984 are perfect axes any pro guitar player could use on a daily basis.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3320" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone2-678x1024.jpg" alt="" width="678" height="1024" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone2-678x1024.jpg 678w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone2-199x300.jpg 199w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone2-768x1160.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone2-370x559.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone2-600x906.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matswestone2.jpg 816w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px" /></p>
<p>This picture is only here to show you the mapple choice for this cheap westone was far from economics reality&#8230;</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3321" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matslogo.jpg" alt="" width="831" height="195" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matslogo.jpg 831w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matslogo-300x70.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matslogo-768x180.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matslogo-370x87.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/matslogo-600x141.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 831px) 100vw, 831px" /></p>
<p>From my The Aria Pro II PE100 guitar&#8230;4-11 NM ?</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Jacques Stompboxes ts808 page Personal history In the early ‘70s there were no such things as an overdrive pedal. When we talk about choice of good guitar tones , it usually went from Fender twin clean to fuzz face in a Marshall amp, while these options were way too expensive for teenagers. Even in our ... <a title="Jacques Ibanez ts808 page" class="read-more" href="https://jacquespedals.com/jacques-ibanez-ts808-page/" aria-label="En savoir plus sur Jacques Ibanez ts808 page">Lire la suite</a></p>
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<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3139" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/TS808TRIO-1024x768.jpg" alt="ibanez-ts808-vintage-original-tubescreamer" width="840" height="630" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/TS808TRIO-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/TS808TRIO-300x225.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/TS808TRIO-768x576.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/TS808TRIO-370x278.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/TS808TRIO-600x450.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px" /></p>
<p><strong>Personal history</strong></p>
<p>In the early ‘70s there were no such things as an overdrive pedal. When we talk about choice of good guitar tones , it usually went from Fender twin clean to fuzz face in a Marshall amp, while these options were way too expensive for teenagers. Even in our favourite records , that creamy tone we all know and like now, was totally absent . Of course, it was always possible to roll-off our guitar volume knob when engaged in a fuzz pedal to obtain something more coherent for rhythm&#8212;and then of course go full volume for fire-breathing solo. As far as I can remember, the first time I heard this tone was from a Stevie Ray Vaughan track and it changed everything. So don’t take for granted this tone has always been here : most classic rock album , the foundation of our music , did without.</p>
<p><strong>First experiences</strong></p>
<p>While Boss OD-1 was already there when the Ibanez ts808 came out, it somehow flew under the radar. Some would argue the MXR distortion + could be near, but as we used it only completely cranked up, we totally missed the point.<br />
Another thing is that our beloved fuzz pedals was not that great on cheap transistor amps, with maybe the exception of the Electro-harmonix big muff, a class of its own.<br />
So when we first tried a tubescreamer on our band Emthree 100w tranny amp, it was kind of a revelation: it was just like we eventually got a good amp for almost free.This was so good , I had to KNOW why and how those Japanese engineers have succeeded in that miracle, as I was already building fuzz pedals for my fellow guitar players at that time.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3140" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/scematic.jpg" alt="ibanez-ts808-circuit-schematic-opamp-diode-4558" width="309" height="309" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/scematic.jpg 309w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/scematic-150x150.jpg 150w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/scematic-300x300.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/scematic-100x100.jpg 100w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 309px) 100vw, 309px" /></p>
<p><strong>The biggest secret revealed</strong></p>
<p>Intense scrutiny gave me the secret : two diodes in the feedback loop of an opamp ! Believe me at that time opamps were close to the electronics state-of-the-art , and while two diodes head-to-tail was not really new, the arrangement was ground-breaking. From this mythical times , I have been working on my own version, leading me to the fierce Overtube. But the original green Grail have been cherished all these years, and still part of my pedal collection at the best place.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3141" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon2-1024x678.jpg" alt="ts808-date-on-circuit-capacitor" width="840" height="556" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon2-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon2-300x199.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon2-768x509.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon2-370x245.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon2-600x397.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon2.jpg 1232w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px" /></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3142" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808811-1024x678.jpg" alt="ts808-date-on-circuit-capacitor-1981" width="840" height="556" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808811-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808811-300x199.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808811-768x509.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808811-370x245.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808811-600x397.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808811.jpg 1232w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px" /></p>
<p><strong>Dating an original ts808</strong></p>
<p>For a long time, that question was utterly useless : there were only originals , they were cheap, and the reissue trend was not yet even on my mind of marketing executives : they only changed the models and the pedal became ts9, ts10 ts5 and ts7 .But when market went crazy on prices , Ibanez made these pedals again and confusion started .<br />
Well the outside look is kind of a give away : most of the original tubescreamers have been played A LOT and therefore display the wonderful patina of time. The backplate is also different from the but there is a much safer way to know when the treasure you hold in your hand was made: Japanese capacitors manufacturers had the crafty idea to print the year of production on their products. Just read it and you will know : on these pictures , both pedals shows 1981 date .<br />
You can also spot the registered r near the Ibanez logo which indicates older models.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3151" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentprint.jpg" alt="" width="986" height="653" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentprint.jpg 986w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentprint-300x199.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentprint-768x509.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentprint-370x245.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentprint-600x397.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 986px) 100vw, 986px" /></p>
<p><strong>Tone-wise : is it right to spend so much money on an original ts808 ?</strong></p>
<p>That should be short : YES. Any time we did a blind test with several tubescreamers we had on our feet original ts9 pedals, luxury ts808 reissues , modified reissue surgery victims , clones of various skills , etc … , any of our original pedals was chosen 10 times out of 10 . We could start an argument about mojo or any other vaporous theory but facts are facts. I of course have my personal theories about chaos theory and how original components have somehow learned to work together but I won&rsquo;t bother you with them. I have seen and heard that enough with numerous vintage original pedals to be sure.</p>
<p><strong>Collector-wise : is it right to spend so much money on an original ts808 ?</strong></p>
<p>Then again it’s an easy YES : the price of vintage original have raised permanently though the years with no limit yet. I remember fondly when those pedals could be bought for 30$ or euros in the short synthesiser era of the ‘80s. So whenever you find one at a price you would agree, just buy it.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone wp-image-3143" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon1.jpg" alt="ts808-jrc4558-opamp" width="986" height="653" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon1.jpg 1232w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon1-300x199.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon1-768x509.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon1-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon1-370x245.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808bouchon1-600x397.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 986px) 100vw, 986px" /></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3144" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentcirc.jpg" alt="ts808-malaysia-rc4558-opamp" width="986" height="653" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentcirc.jpg 986w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentcirc-300x199.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentcirc-768x509.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentcirc-370x245.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentcirc-600x397.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 986px) 100vw, 986px" /></p>
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<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-3146" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentcirc2.jpg" alt="texas-instrument-rc4558-opamp-ts808" width="986" height="653" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentcirc2.jpg 986w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentcirc2-300x199.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentcirc2-768x509.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentcirc2-370x245.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitcentcirc2-600x397.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 986px) 100vw, 986px" /></p>
<p><strong>The 4558 opamp chip and the Malaysia story</strong></p>
<p>As we was before ,the circuit of this pedal was conceived around the 4558 operational amplifier issued by Texas Instrument in the ‘70s. By all means this opamp was not targeting high-end audio but meant to be a more modern 741, and then received the modest ‘ general purpose ‘ sticker. You can find it in numerous domestic appliances of that period and that’s a fun game to spot it in thrift stores cassette recorders or radios. Several brands of this chip were used by Ibanez, and some aficionados would only swear by the Malaysia RC4558P from T.I. or Japan Radio Company JRC4558D. My habits in hi-fi tend to direct me toward the original, and as a matter of fact, my favourite ts808, nicknamed ‘ West’ has an original made in USA RC4558P from Texas Instrument themselves. But we are talking a subtle differences here. None original pedal lacked the magic in tone.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3155" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitsquare-1024x678.jpg" alt="" width="840" height="556" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitsquare-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitsquare-300x199.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitsquare-768x509.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitsquare-370x245.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitsquare-600x397.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/tshuitsquare.jpg 1232w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px" /></p>
<p><strong>Mini-jack power supply</strong></p>
<p>All original ts808 pedals had mini-jack positive tip power supply plug input. But a much lesser known fact that their enclosure was ready for standard Boss barrel DC. A square hole was already present as you can see on pics, while it was not a good idea from the precedent owner to punch it opened.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3152" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/OD850OD855-1024x850.jpg" alt="" width="840" height="697" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/OD850OD855-1024x850.jpg 1024w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/OD850OD855-300x249.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/OD850OD855-768x638.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/OD850OD855-370x307.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/OD850OD855-600x498.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/OD850OD855.jpg 1964w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px" /></p>
<p><strong>The ts808 siblings</strong></p>
<p>And that leads us to its brothers : od850 and od855.<br />
At the time of their issue the competition was still opened.<br />
Many music mags gave the OD 850 the award for best harmonic distortion around and no doubt it is a great pedal.<br />
Here are the ts808 signal-to-noise ratio precious info from a yore French tech mag:<br />
Maximum gain: +30 db (+ 40db for OD850 and +45db for OD855)<br />
Equivalent input noise: -100db (-70db for OD850 and -100db for OD855)<br />
Price in French Francs of 1980 : 345,- ( FF 325,- for the other two)<br />
All in all it seemed logical to the testers to choose the OD850 as a perfect ratio between gain and noise.<br />
History made another choice.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-3153" src="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808814-1024x678.jpg" alt="" width="840" height="556" srcset="https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808814-1024x678.jpg 1024w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808814-300x199.jpg 300w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808814-768x509.jpg 768w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808814-370x245.jpg 370w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808814-600x397.jpg 600w, https://jacquespedals.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/ts808814.jpg 1232w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 840px) 100vw, 840px" /></p>
<p><strong>My own creation : the Overtube.</strong></p>
<p>I dislike making clones for at least two reasons :<br />
I love to pay homage to the original object of my collection and it is a real joy for me to own several examples of this legendary pedal as well as other milestone pedals. I can find any value of a servile copy and if someone cannot afford an original , a cheap ts7 will always do the job and it is still an original pedal which can one day be cool, who knows.<br />
The other reason is from an artefact point of view : I will always be much happier to sell a circuit I have created myself , expose my own sonic ideas and get the proper feedback from a satisfied customer.<br />
This is why I built the Overtube on a new electronics basis to catch the creamy magic of the original ts808 and add it a CASCADE switch to emulate the use of 2 tubescreamers in series popularised by SRV himself.<br />
Thank you for reading this article and let’s meet on my Overtube page</p>
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